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My thoughts on Tex Trade

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 30, 2007 at 3:51 pm

OK, Teixeira has been traded. I can’t say that surprises me in the least. Even with the Boras factor ignored, I don’t think many Ranger fans thought he was going to stay here. Those comments he made a couple of weeks ago regarding “fun conversations with Baltimore in a year and a half” were pretty damning. I can’t speak to his “happiness” here, as I’m sure we’d get the Bull Durham lines about wanting to help the team win, etc… But I think most everybody seems to think it was inevitable that he would be moved.

So OK, that leaves a few possibilities. First, we keep him through his final arb year of 2008 and let him walk at the end for draft picks. That was so seriously not likely to happen, I can’t even fathom it being thought about. Second, we trade him. If you trade him, that gives you three realistic options. Trade deadline now. Trade deadline in 2008, and the off season between 07 & 08. If you are going to trade a player like Mark Teixeira, you want to maximize the value you get for him. That’s actually what you generally want to do in any trade, but especially for something like this.

So OK, we’re trading him. You go out and see who wants to take a player who will likely get $12 million in arbitration next year, the final year of his contract, where it’s widely expected he will go out on the market and not just automatically resign. That kind of rules out trading at the deadline in 2008, since it would be for just two months, and you’re not going to get a ton of value if you trade him 12 months from now. I also don’t think the offseason is the best time, the best time to trade him if you’re trading him at all is now. At least this way we can have a handle on what other pieces we might need in 2008 when we go into the offseason in October.

OK, we’ve arrived at now being the optimum time to trade him being now. So you go out there and see who wants him? While he is under control for next season, as I said he’s arb eligible, which means he’s likely making $12 million next year. That fact alone limits some of the teams. Plus not everyone will need the player as they have others there already. So that narrows it down. The widely talked about teams in this trade scenario were the Braves, the Angels, and the Dodgers. Heard the Diamondbacks in the last couple of days, but my gut says that wasn’t a realistic option.

So OK. You then look down what each team offers. I know most people will scream “pitching please” as a return. As would I, but one has to be realistic about it. Are these teams going to send us their best pitcher or pitching prospect for Tex? No, they’re not. So you look at the best option for all of them. For the Angels, the best option for pitching I saw was Ervin Santana. Eh. For the Dodgers, the word was that the Rangers wanted Clayton Kershaw. By all accounts, that would have been a spectacular move. But LA didn’t want to give him up. I probably wouldn’t have, either. That left the Braves and their package.

There’s also the issue of trading Tex inside our own division to the Angels, something that I would have a hard time dealing with. It’s always annoying when you trade a fan favorite and a good player away, but it’s worse inside your own division. We would have to have been absolutely bowled over with an offer from the Angels to trade him there. That didn’t happen, so I’m glad about that.

So Teixeira is traded away with Ron Mahay for four players. One major leaguer, and three prospects. By all accounts the two named ones are great prospects (not marginal ones), and the fourth is unknown yet, rumored to be another pitcher. First, let me say breaking down individual players is not my strength. That is a strength of Jamey Newberg, so I’ll defer to him on the actual playing abilities of each of the guys we get. But I do have a few words.

Inbound we get a switch hitting catcher Jarrod Saltamacchia. I kept hearing that he can play some first base. In trading away a player of Mark Teixeira’s caliber for a player who is primarily a catcher, the immediate first thought is What about Gerald Laird?. There was some talk a day or two ago that we were looking at trading Laird & Mahay to the Cubs for Felix Pie. I find that hard to believe – while Pie is supposed to be a stud, I can’t see where that trade makes much sense from the Cubs standpoint. Anyway the question will be where will Salt play in Texas? Laird is our front line catcher, and we did just bring in Adam Melhuse, so we don’t really need another catcher, although Salt is a switch hitter with a lot of power. Do we play Salt at first base? Does that bump Wilkkkkkkerson back to part time duties in the OF? We’ll see.

The others are infielder Elvis Andrews, who is supposed to be a very good infielder, but he’s at A ball, so he’s awhile away from making a big impact. There’s also pitching prospect Neftali Feliz, who has some decent numbers, he is in rookie ball. Even further away. The fourth player is unknown, but supposedly pitcher Matt Harrison, but there’s some injury concerns, which is why he’s likely to be a PTBNL in this deal.

As for Ron Mahay, while he’s pitched OK for us, I can’t see him being here super long term, either – and he’s what 37 I think? Nice guy, but I don’t think will be seriously missed.

Is this a blockbuster trade? No, probably not. However, all things considered, we probably got the best we could get. Yeah, there’s some question marks about the minor leaguers, but when isn’t there about minor leaguers – honestly? You’re not getting a team to give up a front line starting pitcher here, so this is probably the best you can do. My overall opinion is probably “eh”, but I think that’s more based off of the fact that you knew Tex was going to go anyway, not the players back. Once those remarks about “fun conversations” came out a few weeks back, you kind of knew this day was coming, and that’s where my feelings come from. I’m OK with the players in return, just annoyed we had to trade him in the first place.

Why did I write all this? I’m just tired of knee-jerk reactions of people in call in shows who say things like “No major league pitching? This automatically sucks”. I detest sports call in shows, because most of the people who call in generally have no friggin clue about the larger picture. This post won’t change that behaviour, but at least will get some steam out of me. I wish Steve Busby was back on the KRLD post game call in. I loved how he would mock people calling in with that kind of attitude. I miss that. Busby had some balls on the post game show.

I do have to admit to being curious what Michael Young’s remarks about the trade will be.

Filed Under: From Joe's Mind

Teixeira & Mahay to Braves

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 30, 2007 at 10:41 am

It appears that Tex is done. Ken Rosenthal is reporting that the deal to move Teixeira out of town is done. The word is that Tex will be going with Ron Mahay for C/1B Jarrod Saltamacchia, Class A shortop Elvis Andrews, and two unnamed pitching prospects.
I see the Ticket howling already about not getting major league pitching. More details as they come out.

The Braves are on the verge of acquiring Rangers first baseman Mark Teixeira.
The deal is done, pending a review of the medical records of the players involved, according to major-league sources.
The Braves will receive Teixeira and left-handed reliever Ron Mahay.
The Rangers will receive catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Class A shortstop Elvis Andrus and two pitching prospects.

UPDATE #1: One of the minor league pitchers is Netfali Feliz. There’s more info about him here and here.

Filed Under: Rangers News

G105: Rangers swept out by Royals, 10-0

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 29, 2007 at 6:33 pm http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20070729&content_id=2117064&vkey=wrapup2005&fext=.jsp>MLB.com Recap

The less said about this mess, the better.

Filed Under: 2007 Game Recaps

G104: Royals beat Nelson Cruz, 6-5

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 28, 2007 at 11:30 pm

Kevin Millwood had an awful game on the mound. His line was atrocious. He went 2.2 innings, giving up nine hits and one walk. All six runs the Royals got were off Millwood, and they were all earned. No good way to describe that.
Of course it did mean that our bullpen pitched pretty well. All six KC runs were scored in the first three innings. After that, our bullpen put up zeroes.
Offensively, it was all Nelson Cruz, making his first appearance since returning from AAA after the trade of Kenny Lofton. Cruz was the show, hitting two home runs, and driving in all five runs the Rangers scored. Was nice to see that. Hopefully the new batting stance we saw on TV during this game helps him out. I did like him a lot when we first aquired him about a year ago. But he definitely has fallen since then. Hope he puts it back together again.
But a tough loss. We did make some noise in the ninth inning, scoring two to get to 6-5, and I believe left the bases loaded when the game ended. Darn.

Filed Under: 2007 Game Recaps

G103: Rangers lose to Royals, 6-1

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 28, 2007 at 2:30 am http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20070727&content_id=2114012&vkey=wrapup2005&fext=.jsp>MLB.com Recap

You know as I started watching this game, I thought “Oh, it’s Jamey Wright, this won’t be so bad”. What a fool I was! I was duped into believing that the guy wearing #45 lately was a great pitcher. His recent performances had me believing that he was someone to trust. I should have known. This was the Jamey Wright we knew and loved before he signed here. The one that caused me to contemplate blinding myself with knitting needles when he made the 25 man roster. ;) OK, that’s an exaggeration taht fooled nobody. But it wasn’t something I was thrilled when when the Rangers did it. Tonight wasn’t good. 6.2 innings pitched, ten hits, four walks, and five earned runs. Three of them came in the first on a home run to Butler. It was at that moment I sort of wrote the opening bit for this entry. We never recovered.
Brian Bannister tossed a gem against us. Seven shutout innings on four hits and two walks. Not much else to say, the kid was good.
The only offense we got was a Sammy Sosa home run into the grass in left off of Joaquim Soria in the 8th. That was it. Sosa also had a single, as did Mike Young, Mark Teixeira, & Brad Wilkerson – but that was it for our offense, aside from the couple of walks. We had nothing.
The old problem with being unable to win in Kansas City isn’t still with us, is it?

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Lofton traded to Cleveland

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 27, 2007 at 2:16 pm

In a move that I don’t think surprises much of anyone, Kenny Lofton was traded to the Cleveland Indians today for minor league catcher Max Ramirez.
Ramirez will be assigned to Class a Bakersfield. According to Jamey Newberg, he’s not on the 40 man, but will be Rule 5 eligible after the season. According to the Rangers media notes for today, Ramirez has been in the Carolina League (A) all season, batting .303 with 20 doubles, 12 home runs, and 62 RBI in 77 games. Pretty decent numbers there. He was on the World team in the recent Futures game in San Fran, as well as being on that league’s All Star game team. You can check out Max’s page on the Minor League Baseball site here. Don’t know what the long term plans are, but it can never hurt to add a good looking piece to the system.
As for Kenny.. I’m actually sad to see him go. Oh, I know we need to give Marlon Byrd a real shot in center field for the rest of the season. For all the right baseball reasons, this was a good move. Kenny was not going to help in 2007 here once the season got going. But heck, he could still bring it at his age. He was our stolen base leader (21), played a good centerfield, and was just someone who seemed like a good guy to have around. So he goes back to Cleveland, one of the more notable stops in his train ride of a career (Astros, Indians, Braves, White Sox, Giants, Pirates, Cubs, Yankees, Phillies, Dodgers, Rangers). Do I hear Mike Morgan getting worried about the number of teams? :)
Anyway, Kenny’s time here was short, but I certainly enjoyed it. One of those guys that would have been awesome down the stretch if we were playing the entire season like the last 3 weeks or so have gone.
The corresponding 25 man roster move with Lofton departing was Nelson Cruz being recalled. Nelson seems to have been passed in the pecking order by Marlon Byrd. I wonder how Cruz will respond now.

Filed Under: Rangers News

Lofton Traded

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 27, 2007 at 1:53 pm

  • OF Kenny Lofton traded to Cleveland Indians for C Max Ramirez
  • OF Nelson Cruz recalled from AAA [ Link ]

Filed Under: Transactions

G102: Rangers sweep Mariners behind 7-6 game

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 25, 2007 at 10:42 pm http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20070725&content_id=2109224&vkey=wrapup2005&fext=.jsp>MLB.com Recap

It’s been awhile since I’ve used this graphic, and even longer for a four game sweep. But it was needed, as the Rangers finished off the Seattle Mariners who have now dropped six in a row. I didn’t see any of this game, because I had gotten a new computer, and had the game on via MLB.com’s gameday.
Anyway, Brandon McCarthy had another “eh” outing. Five innings, three earned runs. Only one walk, which was good, but eight hits, which was not. Pitch count was too high again. 100 pitches in five innings. That’s gotta be better. That (to me) seems to be McCarthy’s biggest fault. Too high a pitch count. Other than that, he’s good enough now to battle through. He just burns out too fast, due to nibbling/balls/walks/etc…
Our pen also fit the “eh”. Eye/Francisco/Benoit went a combined four innings, giving up seven hits and three earned runs. Only one walk by them too (Eyre), which was a good thing.
Offensively we had five doubles this game by five different players. But the big shot was a two run home run by Ramon Vazquez in the bottom of the 8th.
Can’t think of anything particularly earth shattering to say about this game except that it was quite nice to take a four game sweep. :)

Filed Under: 2007 Game Recaps

Jerryland

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 25, 2007 at 2:07 am

In addition to the photos I took of the Ballpark out at the doubleheader on Tuesday, I also took some photos of Jerryland, which is being built next door. The panoramic shot posted above was actually four jpgs I stitched together to make what you see. I took them standing at the back of the Dr Pepper Youth Ballpark which was right on the other side of Mark Holtz lake. For those of you who had any doubt, this definitely qualifies as a “next door” neighbor. If you’ve ever been to Baltimore or Pittsburgh and seen games there, then this will feel the same. If you stand in Oriole Park, and look out the upper concourse across the parking lot, you can see the Ravens stadium. Same in Pittsburgh. Stand at PNC Park, and you can see the Steelers’ home (Heinz Field) on the far side of the parking lot.

Jerryland and The Ballpark in Arlington are separated by more than just a parking lot – but not much more. I hope that when it’s all done, they won’t put things inbetween like buildings that will block the view. My guess is Jerry won’t want people to not be able to see Jerryland from the Ballpark anyway, and that’s unlikely to happen. :)

The shot below was taken where my seat was, which was the last row in Section 326 behind home plate. I did zoom in a bit, but not much – the place is pretty darned close.

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G101: Rangers win game 2 of DH, beat Mariners 4-3

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 24, 2007 at 11:10 pm http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20070724&content_id=2106179&vkey=wrapup2005&fext=.jsp>MLB.com Recap

Kameron Loe pitched the first inning like the Loe from the first part of this season. While he didn’t give up any actual runs, he did pitch like he was in quicksand, throwing something like 25 or so pitches. That did NOT look promising. Couple that with a 30 pitch fifth inning, and one wonders how the heck he managed to throw into the seventh inning. 55 pitches in two means the other frames had some small pitch counts. :)

Loe actually was pretty decent until the fifth when the Mariners scored all their runs. The first one scored three of the four of the first five batters of the inning singled. It actually would have been worse had Gerald Laird not picked off Betancourt from second. Raul Ibanez was at the plate on a disputed call – The Rangers thought they had stuck him out to end the inning – they were walking off the field, and home plate umpire Jim Reynolds said that he had not, it was a foul. This of course bought a cascade of boos from the fans in the park. It got worse on the next pitch when Ibanez doubled to the alley in right center, scoring two more. Reynolds was the target of some booing that would have done Philadelphia fans proud. I was listening in the park, and they said on the radio that it did appear to bounce, but that was a bad feeling. At that moment, you thought that it would be the game breaker.

The Rangers did follow it right up with two more of their own, tying the game at three. But this game was powered by Travis Metcalf. Metcalf went 4 for 4 tonight, scoring one, and driving in one – but the one he drove in was the important one. In the bottom of the 8th, he doubled to left, scoring Gerald Laird. Metcalf had a triple earlier in the game, that was his major league first. The four hits was also a career best for him, as the radio guys said he never got more than two in a game before.

CJ Wilson relieved Loe, going 1.1 innings, giving up no hits, while striking out 3 of the four outs made on his ledger. He was followed by Eric Gagne again. Gagne did mostly the same thing as the first game. Allowed a single to lead off his frame, then not allowing much else. Gagne saved both ends of the doubleheader, as well as a pitching the night before – three appearances in 24 hours.

While Loe wasn’t crisp, he hung in there and battled well. Our pen kept it good, and allowed us to come back and get the win. I was at the doubleheader sweeps in 2004 when we beat the Red Sox & the Pirates. I love doubleheaders anyway – but they’re a heck of a lot better when your team wins both ends of ’em.

This picture was taken from the same location the picture I posted with game one was taken from – couldn’t decide which to post, as I like both, so I posted one per game. :)

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