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My thoughts on Tex Trade

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 30, 2007 at 3:51 pm

OK, Teixeira has been traded. I can’t say that surprises me in the least. Even with the Boras factor ignored, I don’t think many Ranger fans thought he was going to stay here. Those comments he made a couple of weeks ago regarding “fun conversations with Baltimore in a year and a half” were pretty damning. I can’t speak to his “happiness” here, as I’m sure we’d get the Bull Durham lines about wanting to help the team win, etc… But I think most everybody seems to think it was inevitable that he would be moved.

So OK, that leaves a few possibilities. First, we keep him through his final arb year of 2008 and let him walk at the end for draft picks. That was so seriously not likely to happen, I can’t even fathom it being thought about. Second, we trade him. If you trade him, that gives you three realistic options. Trade deadline now. Trade deadline in 2008, and the off season between 07 & 08. If you are going to trade a player like Mark Teixeira, you want to maximize the value you get for him. That’s actually what you generally want to do in any trade, but especially for something like this.

So OK, we’re trading him. You go out and see who wants to take a player who will likely get $12 million in arbitration next year, the final year of his contract, where it’s widely expected he will go out on the market and not just automatically resign. That kind of rules out trading at the deadline in 2008, since it would be for just two months, and you’re not going to get a ton of value if you trade him 12 months from now. I also don’t think the offseason is the best time, the best time to trade him if you’re trading him at all is now. At least this way we can have a handle on what other pieces we might need in 2008 when we go into the offseason in October.

OK, we’ve arrived at now being the optimum time to trade him being now. So you go out there and see who wants him? While he is under control for next season, as I said he’s arb eligible, which means he’s likely making $12 million next year. That fact alone limits some of the teams. Plus not everyone will need the player as they have others there already. So that narrows it down. The widely talked about teams in this trade scenario were the Braves, the Angels, and the Dodgers. Heard the Diamondbacks in the last couple of days, but my gut says that wasn’t a realistic option.

So OK. You then look down what each team offers. I know most people will scream “pitching please” as a return. As would I, but one has to be realistic about it. Are these teams going to send us their best pitcher or pitching prospect for Tex? No, they’re not. So you look at the best option for all of them. For the Angels, the best option for pitching I saw was Ervin Santana. Eh. For the Dodgers, the word was that the Rangers wanted Clayton Kershaw. By all accounts, that would have been a spectacular move. But LA didn’t want to give him up. I probably wouldn’t have, either. That left the Braves and their package.

There’s also the issue of trading Tex inside our own division to the Angels, something that I would have a hard time dealing with. It’s always annoying when you trade a fan favorite and a good player away, but it’s worse inside your own division. We would have to have been absolutely bowled over with an offer from the Angels to trade him there. That didn’t happen, so I’m glad about that.

So Teixeira is traded away with Ron Mahay for four players. One major leaguer, and three prospects. By all accounts the two named ones are great prospects (not marginal ones), and the fourth is unknown yet, rumored to be another pitcher. First, let me say breaking down individual players is not my strength. That is a strength of Jamey Newberg, so I’ll defer to him on the actual playing abilities of each of the guys we get. But I do have a few words.

Inbound we get a switch hitting catcher Jarrod Saltamacchia. I kept hearing that he can play some first base. In trading away a player of Mark Teixeira’s caliber for a player who is primarily a catcher, the immediate first thought is What about Gerald Laird?. There was some talk a day or two ago that we were looking at trading Laird & Mahay to the Cubs for Felix Pie. I find that hard to believe – while Pie is supposed to be a stud, I can’t see where that trade makes much sense from the Cubs standpoint. Anyway the question will be where will Salt play in Texas? Laird is our front line catcher, and we did just bring in Adam Melhuse, so we don’t really need another catcher, although Salt is a switch hitter with a lot of power. Do we play Salt at first base? Does that bump Wilkkkkkkerson back to part time duties in the OF? We’ll see.

The others are infielder Elvis Andrews, who is supposed to be a very good infielder, but he’s at A ball, so he’s awhile away from making a big impact. There’s also pitching prospect Neftali Feliz, who has some decent numbers, he is in rookie ball. Even further away. The fourth player is unknown, but supposedly pitcher Matt Harrison, but there’s some injury concerns, which is why he’s likely to be a PTBNL in this deal.

As for Ron Mahay, while he’s pitched OK for us, I can’t see him being here super long term, either – and he’s what 37 I think? Nice guy, but I don’t think will be seriously missed.

Is this a blockbuster trade? No, probably not. However, all things considered, we probably got the best we could get. Yeah, there’s some question marks about the minor leaguers, but when isn’t there about minor leaguers – honestly? You’re not getting a team to give up a front line starting pitcher here, so this is probably the best you can do. My overall opinion is probably “eh”, but I think that’s more based off of the fact that you knew Tex was going to go anyway, not the players back. Once those remarks about “fun conversations” came out a few weeks back, you kind of knew this day was coming, and that’s where my feelings come from. I’m OK with the players in return, just annoyed we had to trade him in the first place.

Why did I write all this? I’m just tired of knee-jerk reactions of people in call in shows who say things like “No major league pitching? This automatically sucks”. I detest sports call in shows, because most of the people who call in generally have no friggin clue about the larger picture. This post won’t change that behaviour, but at least will get some steam out of me. I wish Steve Busby was back on the KRLD post game call in. I loved how he would mock people calling in with that kind of attitude. I miss that. Busby had some balls on the post game show.

I do have to admit to being curious what Michael Young’s remarks about the trade will be.

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Jerryland

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 25, 2007 at 2:07 am

In addition to the photos I took of the Ballpark out at the doubleheader on Tuesday, I also took some photos of Jerryland, which is being built next door. The panoramic shot posted above was actually four jpgs I stitched together to make what you see. I took them standing at the back of the Dr Pepper Youth Ballpark which was right on the other side of Mark Holtz lake. For those of you who had any doubt, this definitely qualifies as a “next door” neighbor. If you’ve ever been to Baltimore or Pittsburgh and seen games there, then this will feel the same. If you stand in Oriole Park, and look out the upper concourse across the parking lot, you can see the Ravens stadium. Same in Pittsburgh. Stand at PNC Park, and you can see the Steelers’ home (Heinz Field) on the far side of the parking lot.

Jerryland and The Ballpark in Arlington are separated by more than just a parking lot – but not much more. I hope that when it’s all done, they won’t put things inbetween like buildings that will block the view. My guess is Jerry won’t want people to not be able to see Jerryland from the Ballpark anyway, and that’s unlikely to happen. :)

The shot below was taken where my seat was, which was the last row in Section 326 behind home plate. I did zoom in a bit, but not much – the place is pretty darned close.

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The All Star Game

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 11, 2007 at 10:15 am http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2007/index.jsp>MLB.com Recap

Well, last night was the All-Star game. I didn’t get to see any of it. Why?
Late in the afternoon my wife told me the air conditioning broke in our house, and as such we were dealing with that – which mostly involved trying to keep our two year old cool and happy. I also was fixing a leaky faucet underneath the sink in teh bathroom.
Between two trips to Lowe’s and the baby, and being hot.. All I really got to watch was the player intros, and I did get to see a few minutes which included Ichiro’s inside the parker. That was it. The game had been over for 45 minutes by the time I actually got to sit down where I could watch it if I wanted to. Didn’t want to, I was too hot and too upset from the day’s events.
The only reason I’m even posting this is I saw a comment saying something like “..since you don’t have an All Star Game post…”. :)
Michael Young did not get in the game, but that’s OK with me. His time was last year. Ron Washington was out there as third base coach for awhile, that was nice to see.

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A couple of Home Run Derby Thoughts

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 10, 2007 at 12:47 am

You know, when I was watching the Home Run Derby tonight, I have to admit at the start wanting Ryan Howard to win. First because I’m a Phillies fan, and second because he was the defending champ. However, after the thing got started, I have to admit that I wanted Matt Holliday to win the thing. Something about him seemed like “nice guy”. Not that Howard or any of the other guys aren’t, just wanted him to win. But I’ve always been a Vlad Guerrero fan, going back to his days in Montreal. So I was glad he got it.

I did not start watching the Derby until about 9:30PM. This is a good thing, as it allowed me to skip all the garbage in between hitting the balls. It’s toned down a bit, I really detested the accosting of the player coming out of the batters circle to ask them what they thought. GAH – hate that! Thank God for TiVo so I can skip all that, and just watch the balls being hit.

And speaking of the balls, did anyone else have serious issues simply finding the balls in flight? I could barely see most of them in flight, it wasn’t until you saw people again that you could pick up the balls.

Chris Berman seemed to be much more toned down than in previous years. Much less of “back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back ” on home run calls. That’s good. I don’t mind that shtick by him, but it really has gone overboard in the last few years or so. Nice to see that pulled back.

I still would have loved to have seen Bonds in this thing. I actually don’t totally mind his stated answer as to why he wasn’t doing it, which I heard on XM today as “I feel it’s time for the young kids to have the spotlight” (I’m paraphrasing there, but you get the idea). Nice PC answer, but still a bit of a surprise to hear that.

Also, what is with the disrespecting of Albert Pujols I think it was by spending most of his time at bat yakking to Arod about the Yankees? Who cares? I actually watched that in 2x speed so I could still see, and not have to listen to that. Ugh.

There were some really nice overhead views of the Giants park. To anyone reading this who has actually attended games there… Is that really nice view of the water even viewable from the lower deck seats? From the way the stadium is constructed, I would think you’d have to be in the upper deck to get that great view.

And speaking of “views”.. Check out these shots I saw of all the boat guys in McCovey Cove (was nice to see Willie McCovey out there, too)…

Honestly – it seems stupid to be in the mosh pit like that. I imagine people getting stuck under capsized boats. And what’s with the last one? Do they see the ball coming and all back away or something? If not, how does the ball find that little spot of open water in between all those boats like that? :) The funny thing about all those guys out there was the fact that I don’t think more than 3-4 balls were even hit out there. I can only recall one for sure, and one that might have gone in there. There had to be more than just 2, right? :) Oh, and they should have had more shots from Kenny Mayne’s camera. That was pretty amusing.
And finally, this has nothing to do with the Home Run Derby, but.. Did you see the footage from the Rockies / Phillies game on Sunday? The footage of the tarp being blown around by high winds? It was quite amusing to see the Phillies players all run out on the field and help out the grounds crew by holding the thing down. Not sure why the Rockies players didn’t do that, but the footage was quite amusing, although it did look like some of the grounds crew could have seriously been hurt. Check out a story about it, there’s a video clip, too.

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Aki to Brewers?

Posted by Joe Siegler on July 8, 2007 at 1:57 pm

Saw this today on a trade rumor site. The source is Ken Rosenthal at Fox. He’s usually pretty reliable. Here goes.

The Rangers and Brewers were close to a trade: Akinori Otsuka to the Brewers for Tony Gwynn Jr. Rosenthal seemed to dislike it, but I think it made sense for the Crew. Regardless, Bill Hall’s injury thwarted the deal as Gwynn will be needed to man center.

Good thing Bill Hall got hurt, as I would have hoped we’d get more than Gwynn Jr for Aki.

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CJ Wilson’s Dinner Bell

Posted by Joe Siegler on June 29, 2007 at 9:47 am

This was funny. I laughed rather a lot at this video. It’s “Dinner Bell”, and was produced by CJ Wilson. CJ has his own blog over at the official mlblogs site. If you’ve never read it, you should. It’s good stuff, and is in my daily RSS feed reader.
Anyway, this is one of those silly videos produced with appearances by the majority of the bullpen, a few of the starting pitchers, and a voice over by Tom Grieve & Josh Lewin. Good stuff.

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Eephus Pitch II

Posted by Joe Siegler on June 27, 2007 at 3:51 pm

And you thought the regular old eephus pitch was bizarre. Check this out.

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Life in the AL West

Posted by Joe Siegler on June 26, 2007 at 1:26 am

Quick note, as I’m about to drop off and go to bed…
There’s an interesting article over at “The Hardball Times” about the AL West, and how it breaks down in their eyes. Check out this chart from their article. It’s a pretty quick visual representation of how the season has gone so far.

I also know I’m behind in game updates, I’ll catch up tomorrow morning. Too tired now to start to write.

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Jacque Jones?

Posted by Joe Siegler on June 21, 2007 at 11:51 am

I know we’ll likely be active in the trade market in July, but I wouldn’t think we’d be bringing players in. Especially Jacque Jones. An article in the Chicago Sun Times seems to imply the Rangers are interested in Jones. If we’re bringing in outfielders, I’d want someone a bit higher quality than Jones. Now he’s not bad at all. But if we’re importing, I want someone like oh Torii Hunter.
I can’t see where this move makes a ton of sense for us. Course if guys like Nelson Cruz would take the job that was essentially handed to them on a silver platter, this talk likely wouldn’t even exist.

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Where have you gone Mark Clark?

Posted by Joe Siegler on June 14, 2007 at 12:39 am

You know, I keep bringing up the name Mark Clark on my site here as one of the worst starting pitchers we’ve had in recent vintage. I decided to actually check on his numbers, and how they compare to the 2007 Rangers. It looks like I might need to make one of these guys my new “Mark Clark” on the site before too long.

Check out this comparison between the two seasons Mark Clark pitched with us, and the stats of the 2007 Rangers to date. The number of starts is actually quite similar. Clark pitched some relief in 2000, as did Loe & McCarthy in 07, those stats are accounted for in the overall ERA and WHIP numbers, I don’t know a way short of manually calculating based on old box scores to extricate the relief numbers from the overall numbers.

Name Starts Record ERA WHIP
Mark Clark 1999 15 3-7 8.60 1.84
Mark Clark 2000 8 3-5 7.98 2.04
Kevin Millwood 10 2-6 7.82 1.94
Vicente Padilla 13 2-8 6.28 1.68
Robinson Tejeda 13 5-7 6.49 1.56
Brandon McCarthy 11 4-4 5.90 1.57
Kameron Loe 10 1-6 7.40 1.67

That was far worse than I anticipated. Technically Mark Clark has worse numbers, but man – after looking at the actual numbers it looks like we have close to five Mark Clark’s in our rotation in 2007. Heck, Mark Clark would feel right at home this year, our numbers are just as bad as his was with us. To look back, here are my comments from when we signed Mark Clark, and from when we released him. I had forgotten how much I wanted to like him when we signed him.

Which one of our current guys would you nominate as the new “whipping boy” for my blog to represent everything that is wrong with Texas Rangers starting pitching?

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